The princes of limited hangout

The good old days: Brian Williams, Diane Sawyer, Scott Pelley—and Salvador Dali

by Jon Rappoport

Salvador Dali, surrealist, was one of the most reviled painters of the 20th century.

He disturbed Conventional Folk who just wanted to see an apple in a bowl on a table.

Dali’s apples and bowls were executed with a technical skill few artists could match—except that the apples were coming out of a woman’s nose while she was ironing the back of a giraffe, who was on fire.

“It doesn’t go together! It doesn’t make sense! He’s Satan!”

Yet, these same Folk sit in front of the television screen every night and watch the entirely surreal network news. Elite anchors seamlessly and quickly move from blood running in the streets of a distant land to a hairdryer product-recall to an unseasonal hail storm in Michigan to a debate about public policy on pedophiles to genetically engineered mosquitoes in Florida to a possible breakthrough in storing computer simulations of human brains for later recapture to squirrels gathering nuts in New Jersey.

Nothing surreal about this??

Cognitive dissonance is imprinted on viewers’ minds. It’s the news. It must be normal, even if it’s quite insane.

The best of the best mind control is supposedly applied by the three major network anchors. Recall the old trio: Brian Williams, Scott Pelley, and Diane Sawyer. They’re all gone now. The junior varsity has taken over. David Muir, Lester Holt, and a permanent CBS anchor to be named later.

When the elite anchor goes on air and digs in, he’s paid to be seamless. He could be transitioning from mass killings in East Asia to sub-standard air conditioners, and he makes the audience track through the absurd curve in the road.

Then there is the voice itself. The elite anchor has a voice that soothes just a bit but brooks no resistance. It’s authoritative but not demanding.

Scott Pelley (CBS) was careful to watch himself on this count, because his tendency was to shove the message down the viewer’s throat like a surgeon making an incision with an icepick. Pelley was a high-IQ android who was training himself to be human.

Diane Sawyer wandered into sloppiness, like a housewife who’s still wearing her bathrobe at 4 in the afternoon. She exuded sympathetic syrup, as if she’d had a few cocktails for lunch. And she affected a pose of “caring too much.”

Brian Williams was head and shoulders above his two competitors. You had to look and listen hard to spot a speck of confusion in his delivery. He knew how to believe his act was real. He could also flick a little aw-shucks apple-pie at the viewer. Country boy who moved to the big city.

The vocal delivery of an elite anchor has to work minor poetic rhythms into prose. Shallow hills and valleys. Clip it here and there. Give the important words a pop. This is hypnosis at work. Not the cheesy stage act with three rubes sitting in chairs, waiting to be made into fools by the used-car-salesman type waving a pendulum. This is higher-class stuff. It flows with certainty. It entrains brains. The audience tunes in every night to get their fix.

That’s the key. The audience doesn’t really care about content. They want the delivery, the sound, the voice of the face.

Brain Williams could do a story about three hookers getting thrown out of a restaurant by a doctor celebrating his anniversary with his wife, and it would come across like the Pentagon sending warships into the Gulf.

Diane Sawyer couldn’t. That’s why Williams’ ratings were higher.

Segues, blends are absolutely vital. These are the transitions between one story and another. “Earlier today, in Boston.” “Meanwhile, in New York, the police are reporting.” “But on the Hill, the news was somewhat disappointing for supporters of the president.”

Doing excellent blends can earn an anchor millions of dollars. The audience doesn’t wobble or falter or make distinctions between what went before and what’s coming now. It’s all one script. It’s one winding weirdness of story every night.

Therefore, the viewer doesn’t need to think. This is the acid test. If the ratings are high enough and the audience isn’t thinking, we have a winner.

Corollary: the audience doesn’t notice the parameters of stories, how they’re bounded and defined and artificially constructed to omit deeper themes and various criminals who are committing outrageous crimes that aren’t supposed to be exposed.

Brian Williams, with just a bit of his twanging emphasis, could say, “Today, pharmaceutical giant Glaxo was fined one-point-nine billions dollars,” but he would never tie all the horrendous stories of medical-drug damage together in a searing indictment of the whole industry.

The audience needs to remain oblivious to this larger story. That’s the anchor’s job. That’s his underlying assignment.

It’s called, in intelligence circles, a limited hangout. You expose a piece of a crime, in order to transmit the illusion of “justice served,” while the true RICO dimensions are kept out of view.

Elite anchors are the princes of limit[ed] hangouts. That is their stock in trade. Sell the illusion of justice while concealing the bulk of the iceberg that is under water.

The audience can watch and listen to hours of coverage on revolutions and counter-revolutions in the Middle East, but they can’t suspect that the US and NATO are funding terrorists dressed up as freedom fighters, in order to destabilize and destroy nations in that region.

“More gunfire and explosions in the capital city today…”

Then there is a little thing called conscience. The elite anchor can’t have one. He has to pretend to have one, but it isn’t real.

Every year, the anchor covers dozens of scandals that are left to wither and die on the vine and fall down the memory hole, never to be seen again, except perhaps for a much-later task-force or commission report that equivocates and exonerates the major players.

The anchor is happy to deal with this. He’s happy to develop memory loss.

In editorial meetings at his own network offices, if someone mentions trillions in government bailouts to banks, he can frown slightly and thus impart, “It’s stale, it’s old, we already covered that, let’s move along.”

And when it comes to elites, to whom the anchor pledges allegiance, and with whom he occasionally hob-nobs? CFR, Rockefeller interests, Wall Street, Goldman Sachs, AIPAC, government-allied Big Medicine, and so on? Nothing to see, nothing to say. No problem.

Therefore, the viewing audience doesn’t suspect these controlling entities are doing anything wrong or, in some cases, even exist.

The elite anchor: “Conspiracy? Aw shucks, I really do have sympathy for the people who dig up this stuff. And I’m not saying all of it is wrong, either. But you know, journalism is about plumbing for facts and verifying them. That’s the hard truth we have to face in this business. Going on the air with a possible this and a possible that is ultimately irresponsible. If we who present the news feel an occasional impulse to wing it, we have to rein ourselves in. Restraint is part of our job…”

Show these jokers a few devastating books by Anthony Sutton or Carroll Quigley and they’ll nod and say, “I did read that one in college. It was interesting but a little thin, I thought…”

The anchors project a sense they’re doing science. Gathering facts, verifying, testing, repeating the study to see if it holds up, checking the checkers, confirming the sources, tailoring the assertions to make sure there’s no wandering off the well-researched path.

It’s part of the act.

The elite anchor has to impart the impression that he’s personally familiar with the events he’s reporting. That’s nonsense. He isn’t touching actual events with a ten-foot pole. He isn’t doing journalism himself. But the audience must think he is.

“Washington has been the scene of many battles. But the current tussle at the top of the fiscal cliff is becoming an exercise in outrage on both sides. Today, behind closed doors…”

Some anchors are managing editors of their own broadcasts. That means they sit around like newspaper editors and listen to lesser editors present the stories of the day. The anchors ask questions and pick and choose which pieces they’ll cover on the evening news, and they decide the sequence, but their hands never touch the events themselves.

It’s more illusion. A well-trained and literate high-school sophomore from Nome could go on air, with a decent haircut, and read the news.

But backed up by expert technicians, a good set decorator, and a pro make-up person, Williams, Pelley, and Sawyer gave people the kind of living fiction that has become its own genre.

Elite anchors have a dual aspect. They control minds and they also put themselves in a mind-controlled state, in order to (temporarily) believe in what they’re saying on-air. It’s all self-inflicted.

No need to censor stories from above. The anchors have a finely honed sense of what is permissible and what isn’t.

In early human societies, the story teller was a principal figure. He wove the tribe’s experiences into a coherent whole, and built layers of cosmology. Story tellers formed an elite priest caste and spun official metaphysical doctrine.

Today, people feel the same need for narrators: the anchors. Although these front men for the news no longer use metaphysics to control the masses, they do covertly obey the old rule: tell only part of story.

Guard the rest from public view.

In ancient times, the rationale for hiding key secrets was explained in terms of stages of privileged initiations into “the magic.” Today, millions of people are led to believe their news narrators are giving them everything there is. Other than anchors’ stories, there is nothing. So in this secular media religion, viewers think they have only two choices: swallow the news reality, or face a cold vacuum.

Their bottomless need for a story teller survives.

But…

Came the Internet.

And then the whole world turned upside down.

The networks began to realize they were made out of eggshells and cardboard, and the holes and fractures and disintegrating pieces were out there, on television, for all to witness.

As a veteran reporter who quit the business and went online told me, “Network mind control is expensive. You have to keep doing it every day. And that’s without competition. Now, competitors are everywhere.”

It takes a village. The “it” in this case is network news and the village is the staff and crew. But the village is experiencing typhoons. Once upon a time, crazy surreal mainstream television news required no apologies. But that entitlement has peeled away and blown offshore.

Independent online news outlets are catching up to, and in some cases, surpassing MSM audience numbers. And the content is quite different.

For one thing, the content often features devastating critiques of elite news. For example: The Washington Post, once considered (by the uninformed) an unimpeachable source, is presently owned by Jeff Bezos, the billionaire boss of Amazon. Amazon has a $600 million contract to provide cloud-computing services to the CIA.

This is more than a crippling conflict of interest. It’s a death rattle. Every story the Post publishes about the CIA, and every story that has a named or unnamed CIA source is as reliable as an antelope’s press agent justifying the extinction of all lions.

The NY Times’ daily attacks on Trump for his supposed Russian connections? Well, in 2015, the Times published a devastating piece detailing the Clintons’ role in selling 20% of US uranium production to Putin. But the Times conveniently refuses to follow up on its own story. Needless to say, if Trump had played such a decisive role in enriching Putin and transferring a top national-security resource to Russia, he’d already be wearing a prison jump suit and awaiting a firing squad.

Day by day, elite mainstream news is fading.

This is what happens to elitist authority, no matter how skillful their production.

Hypnosis leaks.

It’s not a perfect seal.

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/07/25/the-good-old-days-brian-williams-diane-sawyer-scott-pelley-and-salvador-dali/

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67 comments

  1. Pelley was a high-IQ android who was training himself to be human.

    lol. rappoport is too much.

  2. With respect to you Nomad Destroyer of Words: this person who wrote the article obviously knows nothing about Salvador Dali. Niente. Nix. Nil. Nada. Nicht.

    Senor Dali was *wildly popular throughout his career & life. Both his art & everyone wanting to be around him. The writer states he was not.

    He developed his theory of ‘Nuclear mysticism’. Which was a fusion of his Catholicism & math & science & had at it’s soul perfect order. The writer attempts to portray disorder as a motivation or concept or thought process for Mr.Dali. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

    See the Wikipedia page for his painting ‘Crucifixion’.

    Which the set designers of ‘Jesus Christ Superstar’ based the crucifixion scene on in the 1971 play I saw then on Broadway. They had the actor descend from the rear of the stage to the front on a giant gold cubic cross similar to Mr. Dali’s cubiform cross in that brilliant painting.

    Ben Vereen played Judas. Yvonne Elliman played Mary Magdalen for that original production; but I may have seen a stand in because she was ill. Yvonne Elliman began on the album in England. The album came before the play.

    Carl Anderson was originally Ben Vereen’s stand in on stage. Then he did the film. Carl should have been cast as Yeshua — as we call him = Joshua. The Celt who played Jesus should have played Judas. There were blonds there then because the Romans took slaves everywhere & they could be freed under various circumstances. But I doubt Jesus looked Celtic. Since he was indigenous Southwest Asian.

    I meant to write all that on the Condi/lizard/film thread the other day — but here it is due to the fact that the art director(s) for that play ripped off Dali — in a really brilliant way. And the person who wrote the above article knows nothing about Dali’s belief in order & how many people actually did love & understand his work.

    I also saw Ben Vereen in the early 70s on Broadway in Pippin. A musical about Horace Pippin. (I think? I forget what it was about as I was a child & my parents would sometimes almost literally drag us through Hell’s Kitchen — Time’s Square neighbourhood — to see plays & concerts there).

    1. yes, but dalis surreal juxtapositions of realistic imagery is indeed something that has been adopted by TV and particularly commercials and the news media thru these princes of limited hangouts.

    2. Salvador Dali, surrealist, was one of the most reviled painters of the 20th century.

      studying art. when i told my primary painting instructor that i was being influenced by dali, in my early painting career, he scoffed.

      iirc i think what he said was ‘yech’.

    3. i dont think what rappoport said is untrue. artists on the cutting edge generally flout conventions. the surrealists in general were notorious for this. conventional people hated them. they even hated the arguably greatest artist of that era, picasso, as well.

      1. Dali was so popular he was asked to design:

        costumes
        stage sets
        Hollywood film scenes (Ingrid Bergman & Gregory Peck in that dream sequence w/ the scissors)
        furniture
        jewellery

        & invited everywhere & gave lectures

        The only people he fell out w/ were his former surrealist artists friends. Because of his being so accepted & their feeling that he had begun to be too popular & commercial. (After Gala begun to act as a manager to him).

        I even have the Jerusalem Bible illustrated by him. The Vatican hired him!

        He was wildly popular. Including among young NYers like my sister’s NYC hairdresser fiance. He was in NY papers photographed at parties constantly. Kids used to flock to meet him.

      2. no contradiction at all. some liked him. some, the conventional people, hated him. the same for impressionists, post impressionists, fauve, cubism, abstract expressionism and so on. have you heard about modern art being a cia creation?

  3. I understood that Dali’s images/paintings etc. are perceived that way by people — obviously — such as this writer who also just assumes Dali was reviled.

    Dali’s placement of images — elements in his paintings — all have very precise meanings. Every single element has a very precise meaning.

    Too lengthy to go into here; but there are examples in every painting. Even the painting of his & Gala’s faces in the kneecaps of Jesus in the painting ‘Crucifixion’ I wrote of earlier. And the chess board the figure of Christ hangs above. And the fact that there are no thorns & no nails. And the fact that the cross is a specific type of mathematical cubiform. It is none of it random.

    Nor is the juxtaposition of things on television that the above writer refers to as chaotic & confusing. Other people see order & beauty in the world & life… where others see chaos & disorder.

    That is how music is made. My schoolmates mother thought that John Coltrane’s music was “evil”. When she listened she could only hear noise. Which is a) weird because of how melodic he is — if you can listen & b) there is even more chaotic music than that of Coltrane that is beautiful & not “evil”. Yet she forbid her to listen to it.

    This is simply a projection of this person’s soul. Not the environment outside of him. Not everything is external. In fact I would argue that most everything is perception.

    It’s like the boy Kay in Hans Christian Andersen’s ‘The Snow Queen’. To see evil & disorder everwhere is an illness of the soul to do w/ the devil — meaning separation from God / goodness / Love / Light / Compassion / wisdom — vs. something external in the world & in other people.

    It is more productive to look towards one’s own faults in fixing the world than seeing evil in everyone & everything.

    1. I understood that Dali’s images/paintings etc. are perceived that way by people — obviously — such as this writer who also just assumes Dali was reviled.
      Dali’s placement of images — elements in his paintings — all have very precise meanings. Every single element has a very precise meaning.

      im going to assume this writers understanding of dali is informed, tho i do not know for sure. he is an artist himself, closer to dalis generation than me. i assume he is familiar with his work and how it was received by the public. as i say, my art teacher, likely the same generation as rappoport scoffed at dali. so he was not universally appreciated.

  4. i dont want to read the article again so can you point me to where he says “chaotic & confusing.”?

    btw. iirc, rappoport is himself an artist.

  5. I didn’t quote those words from him. (No quotation marks). If you read the first few paragraphs that is what he’s describing. For example: “Apples…” through “Satan”. It is implied after that when he compares that to the media.

    I am on a tiny phone. The box I have to type in is down below the article & the whole thread (& I think some ads). So I am at a disadvantage as I have to scroll up & up & up & up & then try to remember exactly what I read (exact punctuation etc.) whilst I scroll down & down & down & down again back to the tiny square.

    Also I do not know how to copy & paste (cut & past I call it as an artist) into this square / onto your blog / with this phone. So I have to try to remember a quote & type it letter by letter.

    Plus I type slowly due to having a neuromuscular disability. Which explains the typos & mistakes I make. I am literally typing into a one and one half inch square. I explained this during that harrowing on Absinthegone’s bog/swamp; whilst everyone typed away at me on their desk tops or laptops or large iPads.

    In addition I will sometimes lose the signal at random & have to type the whole comment over.

    1. ok. i did not interpret what he said that way. but as disparate realities juxtaposed seamlessly together by the surrealist artist, in this case the elite news anchor.

  6. Paragraph 7: “cognitive dissonance”

    Before that he has given a silly description of what he perceives a Dali painting to be. (“giraffe” part). It’s the sort of dismissive thing that people who don’t know anything about art & don’t care to know anything about art; but are so insufferably arrogant they think they know best about art — say.

    My point is that Dali is not like Magritte or even Max Ernst (who was interested in dreams & finding meaning in seemingly unrelated images).

    Dali’s paintings are like modern versions of old masters. Velasquez ‘Familia’ (w/ the patrons visible in the mirror)… for one example. A big influence on Dali.

    They are realms infused w/ specific & very integral meanings. And one cannot get more popular than Hollywood & fashion & the Vatican. All of whom commissioned work from Dali.

    Furthermore this writer is not EVEN explaining what motivated people like Ernst & Duchamp & the Dadaists / Surrealists. He’s simply being dissmissive because he has no interest in understanding what an artist is trying to say.

    Which is obviously true of his pereception of TV journalism & the ads that follow that are made by writers & artists & filmmakers & modelmakers (such as my sculptor brother who worked in that industry in NYC for a living).

    I’m simply reading the words of an arrogant narcissist criticising people.

    I make things. As did Dali. As did my brother — an artist who worked on ads in NYC. I have a problem w/ people who make it their life’s work to be dismissive & tear down others whilst bringing nothing original or creative or positive to the table themselves.

    As I said it is like Hans Christian Anderson ‘The Snow Queen’. I would suggest that people who see evil everywhere have that inside them. So they are looking through & with evil — yet thinking it is outside of them.

    1. I did not interpret it that way at all. I thought he was being tongue in cheek in that description. Besides, its not the focus of the essay. He was drawing a parrallel between Dali’s naturalistic surrealism and the way the elite news anchor paints his narrative. Seamless irrational juxtapositions. Made to look real. Its not a post about Dali, therefore he is not going to get into the kind of clarifications you mentioned. Perhaps he caricatured Dali a little bit, but thats beside the point. I suggest you skip the Dali analogy if its an impediment to appreciation of the whole and contemplate what he said about those automatons that bring us the news.

    2. it probably surprises you that i publish the work of a person that might be considered conservative.
      truth is where you find it. i dont agree w everything rappoport writes. but i agree with this.

      1. i must have. i published the whole article, instead of an excerpt, because i thought it was brilliant.

    3. I have a problem w/ people who make it their life’s work to be dismissive & tear down others whilst bringing nothing original or creative or positive to the table themselves.

      you slander rappoport. this is not what he does and he brings plenty to the table.

      As I said it is like Hans Christian Anderson ‘The Snow Queen’. I would suggest that people who see evil everywhere have that inside them. So they are looking through & with evil — yet thinking it is outside of them.

      and i suggest if you cant see (recognize) evil, you cant fight it.

  7. No paintings or galleries or art dealers/ art agents come up for him. So perhaps paints at home? Doesn’t show? Illustrates his book jackets? (If he has books).

    Also: two of my good friends died from AIDS. They did NOT die from AZT… as he claims. (Not going to waste time here w/ that. It wasn’t even invented yet. AND since medication people have NOT been dying).

    Furthermore: I’m confused as to WHY you are linking to & believing so many OLD WHITER THAN WHITE MEN.

    1. what does that have to do with it?
      i believe people who ring true. If I was arrogant I would say I believe people who tell the truth. But I dont know for certain that its true. I know it rings true.

      But you tell me. Who should I believe?

    2. No paintings or galleries or art dealers/ art agents come up for him. So perhaps paints at home? Doesn’t show? Illustrates his book jackets? (If he has books).

      I could be wrong about that. But, as I say, its not important.

      1. No you are not wrong re. saying he’s a “painter”. He said he’s a painter & a long string of other things. I looked online at a long spiel he wrote of himself (CV in prose).

        I’m not trying to catch you in a lie or something — like those people on that bog. I’m offering my view of this writer & the other conspiracies & the negativity.

    3. But you tell me. Who should I believe?
      Abagond?

  8. “automatons”

    My dad spent his life hiring those “automatons” — only for radio. Those automatons are human beings. W/ wives & children & other interests & charities they give to & even begin. I have love for everyone. I don’t see evil in people because they read the news. I do see evil in people who see evil.

    1. oh, so you object to that term, do you? not my problem.

    2. Those automatons are human beings. W/ wives & children & other interests & charities they give to & even begin.

      so do psychopaths, thieves, and murderers. case in point: the clintons.

  9. Well as I wrote: since two of my friends died of aids before AZT / since my brother worked hard on those ads / since my father hired news anchors (some who went on to network TV from radio) — or as you call them “automatons” / since I knew a teacher who died in Newtown which is several towns away / since Dali was very popular; The Vatican – fashion – Hollywood – film etc. / since my grandmother’s sister died before the vaccine was invented & nobody dies from that anymore / since they spoke about taking Tower 7 down before it fell on NYC workers — so not an expose; those things I know to be true.

    1. youre doing a bit of fudging lines. rappoport talks about elite news anchors. you broaden it to all news anchors. anecdotal evidence is valuable but there is often other kinds of evidence to consider. why are you talking about stuff i have never mentioned like tower 7 and vaccines? if you have a problem w what these writers say about those issues i suggest you address them directly at their sites. i do not endorse their links. just the essay i highlight.

    2. although, i dont mind talking about tower 7. ive posted this before. i think its great.

      1. If it’s the Towers falling; I don’t watch those — as my girlfriend worked there as did my neighbours son. I explained that. I’m a New Yorker. As w/ Newtown; it’s not a million miles away. My HS classmate lives there. And I knew a teacher who was killed in that. I explained that.

        Re. reading something someone has to say when they themselves believe the Newtown massacre was a hoax is not something I will ever be interested in doing. Also for 9/11 conspiracies / AIDS conspiracies / anti-semitic conspiracies etc. Especially as all of those have directly killed people I know. Or family members. Inc. anti-semitism.

    3. If it’s the Towers falling; I don’t watch those

      as far as i know, no one died in building 7.

  10. And also I left out (above): since almost half of the people I know who work tirelessly to help Palestinians are Jewish.

    How am I supposed to believe all these crazy theories from these angry old white men? Who seem to me like they are in power vs. not in power. Which does not make sense given what they are saying.

    Or believe them over my Jewish friends fighting tooth & nail for Palestinians & experience constant anti-semitism & my Gay friends who experienced constant homophobia (they have passed on as I described above).

    I have explained that crazy white neo-Nazis alt-right people & crazy white lefty knit cap fake locks wearing hippies w/ pierced faces & crazy anti-semites who hate “Jews” & crazy elderly white conspiracy theorists — all of who think they are helping us by supporting Palestinians & Lebanese & Syrians ARE DIGGING OUR GRAVE. Hence I have a problem w/ them.

  11. My father hired the ones you call “the elite ones” also. A lot of TV newscasters & sportscasters started in radio. (When people still listened to radio). And he mentored some people that he did not hire that went on to be “elite” in the music industry then film. Though I have never once heard anyone use that term in real life. You are the first person who has ever said that to me. Isn’t that a Republican / Tea Party thing to say?

    It’s about the blaming & negativity. Why blame people who read the news?!

    1. Why blame people who read the news?!

      for all the reasons rappoport mention. plus they are cheerleaders for war.

      1. Sportcasters & Record Co./ film Co. heads are not champions for war.

        But to leave off my father. Christiane Amanpour — for one example — is a “champion for war”?

        And the people you admire who you lead me to who believe the person I knew murdered in Newtown is an ACTOR as were her students & the whole thing is a hoax: they are morally superior? (To give just one example).

      2. But to leave off my father. Christiane Amanpour — for one example — is a “champion for war”?

        i did leave em off. youre the one who brought them up. on a post about a specific three or four media misleaders. you interjected the others as if the post was about them. as npmad would say ‘your facts are uncoordinated. non sequitur.’

      3. re. old whiter than white men & who should you “believe”

        old blacker than black men like my beloved Dr. Cornel West ❤

        “nonsequitur”

        Congratulations. You have discovered I am not someone who excels at what is termed Western style Post-Enlightenment Post- Industrialist thinking/verbal communication style skills. This is why most of my friends — whilst I am forced to live out my life sentence in the U.S. (no money to move) — have been Native American (storytelling culture like that I was raised in).

        I never said I fit in. Also I am an artist & a poet. The latter probably explains a lot re. my favoured style of communication.

        Is ‘The Npmad’ your alter ego? Cute typo. I will always love The Nomad though. Even when the 3rd World War happens & we are living as if set & costume designers for the first Mad Max film designed our lives — I will continue to put in some good words for The Nomad… & The Npmad (The Nomad’s evil twin who will be in charge of a separate post-Apocalyptic tribe than The Nomad).

      4. “non sequitur”

        I was referring to the other things I encountered on their sites (& yours). The anti-semitism & the Newtown/Sandy Hook hoax theory & 9/11 theory etc. etc. etc.

        So I explained WHY I would not read anything they say. And WHY I don’t agree w/ his rude churlish insults of someone like Diane Sawyer. (W/ the mysogynistic bathrobe comments etc.). And with the general negativity & paranoia & seeing everyone else as evil vs. seeing one’s own evil.

        I have made myself perfectly clear about what was put on my plate (sent to my inbox). I have attempted to be kind & fair. I am done here. ‘Those who have ears let them hear’. I am Orthodox hence I limit my exposure to people who refuse to refute evil negativity & blaming of everyone but themselves. Sorry that is part of our belief & practise. I wish you peace & love The Nomad Destroyer of Wor(l)ds ❤

    2. you are fudging. who said anything about sprtcasters & Record Co./ film Co. heads ?

      Christiane Amanpour — for one example — is a “champion for war”?

      i dont watch her, but she probably is. because msm is pro war

    3. i believe no person. only truth.

    4. to put it another way, i wrestle not with flesh and blood, but with powers and principalities.

    5. I am Orthodox hence I limit my exposure to people who refuse to refute evil negativity & blaming of everyone but themselves. Sorry that is part of our belief & practise. I wish you peace & love The Nomad Destroyer of Wor(l)ds ❤

      okay. i dont agree with your synopsis but i respect your decision. i thoroughly enjoyed our conversation. best wishes to you.

      1. & The Zoe (means ‘LIFE’ in Greek vs. ‘Destroyer’ like your tubular metal bodied Star Trek character self) left The Nomad Destroyer of Wor(l)ds some comments on the Nomad/Npmad’s (The Nope-mad) ‘About’ page.

        She thinks those may not get sent to The Nomad/Nopemad — for some reason — & hence Nomad did not see them. She may pop in there later. As the Zoe has also been fond of conversing/covert-ing w/ The Nomad (until recently!).

        Wait until I learn how to paste/link things & start really pissing people off!

      2. Nomad = no mad = not mad

        OR:

        Nomad = know mad = know madness

        OR in reverse:

        Damon = dam on = damn on = keep damning

        OR:

        Damon = Da mon = Dad man (comment made to one’s father w/ Jamaican accent)

        OR:

        Da mon = the man (also imagined in Jamaican accent)

  12. You do realise that you keep sending me (& of course anyone else) articles by people who think people I know who were horribly murdered were ACTORS (Newtown). Or in the case of my mother’s Jewish uncle: part of some secret world dominating society in the 30s… & not really Jewish… since European… “imposters”…

    These things are ON the people’s sites you are sending me to… w/ some on yours… I haven’t wanted to look.

    I have been super forgiving & then today when you sent yet another I have had the last straw.

    I’m sorry you are not happy about that.

    1. no sweat

  13. taotesan · · Reply

    Nomad , it seems that wordpress is censoring comments .
    An essay/rant/ synthesis/expose on the ‘Road from Pearl Harbour’ cannot be posted

    1. interesting. thanks for the heads up. i will see what i can do

  14. taotesan · · Reply

    i will try again

  15. taotesan · · Reply

    would you mind if i try this thread, Nomad, in case i am jumping to conclusions?

    1. be my guest.

  16. taotesan · · Reply

    Thanks, Nomad.

    Roosevelt – Pearl Harbour – Hiroshima and Nagasaki- World War Two – Japanese Banks taken over by the ‘elite’ of ultra sensitive people who conjure victimhood out thin air. Europe still paying billions of Euros to war victors. The Palestinians are the ones who bear the brunt of Balfour

    Declaration. Germans are owed the very biggest of apologies and all their money back for Zionist gargantuan lies, intrigue and the worst character assassinations.
    WWW 11 was brought about so that the victors could get reparations (in perpetuity) and a headquarters (oops! homeland – if that is what you want to believe) on Palestinian land for the (lying) professional victims and to control the USA. Hitler was a convenient fall-guy. Major backers of the war – Rothschild, Warburg.

    Apparently there were Jews being slaughtered left,right and centre by the Russians , six million of them more than a score of times before the turn of the 20th century , way before they decided to pin it on Hitler.

    ( I can say this- I do not live in a country where disbelieving the Holocost is a criminal act, yet, unlike octogenarian historians like Ursula Haverbeck).

    George W. Bush Junior – September 11th 2001- another ‘Pearl Harbour” Iraq genocide/ Afghanistan- oil- false accusations by dual citizens – the worlds biggest professional victims of a phantom genocide, of one country which is the arse-hole of the world and the other its bitch, who used the trillions as pay out for controlled demolitions, (with unusual levels of tritium at Ground Zero) point fingers at phantom Iranian nuclear weapons. (Brings home ground poppies for the ‘stupid middle-class whites’ from Afghanistan). Millions of innocent civilians in Middle East bombed, tortured , terrorized and murdered in the name of war on terror. New paradigm of world order by Rothschild, neocons and – basically the same line of people who ORIGINATED and benefited chiefly from *chatel.

    Barack Obama – Ukraine- offensive aggression against Russia – World War Three -Nuclear Meltdown – World Bank, IMF, internationalists domino BRICS countries – pay attention to coups of sovereign democratically elected presidents by third forces. American vultures circling South China Seas. Brazil down already. South African president, Zuma whatever you think of him (who is talking about taking back African land from white invaders -jews and afrikaners) will be replaced by white monopoly capital’s ANC stooge – Ramaphosa. Same players In USA and South Africa of controlled opposition ( NAACP ANC, Communist parties) who supported both apartheids.

  17. taotesan · · Reply

    contd.

    The world will (temporarily) forget about the illegal,colonialist, genocidal apartheid terrorist state of israel on Palestinian soil and its victims, just like they forgot about Nagasaki and Hiroshima and the 20 million deaths of the Holomodor of which the the Jews were the main antagonists. Nobody talks that much today of the 20 -30 million fatalities of WWW 11, only the ‘6 million’.

    P.S The horrific lies of Mengele’s experimentation and Nazi supposed eugenics program has been exposed decades ago. The shrunken heads have been conceded as a fraud by Yad Vashem.
    Hitler and the National Socialists were indeed an anti- vivisectionist and there were laws against it in Germany.

    German and American Jews conceived of and built the first atom bomb ( To be used to kill non-Jews) more or less in the same time frame. Where is the criticism of that? Oh ! Is that why the icon making of Einstein was manufactured?

    I will believe the Holohoax when there is forensic evidence to support it. Dental forensics, for a start. Where are all the bones and teeth, mountains of ash from the cremotorias? Surely, it can’t be too hard to find the remains of six million deceased. Oh, we are supposed to believe the Germans with their super efficiency, burnt and gassed using the most inefficent means possible: delouser ( Zykon B) for typhus coincidentally invented by a Jew.

    This article is full of unsubstantiated holes. The one thing Swanson gets right is that the American public were unwilling to go to another war and that Roosevelt had lied to them. This article presupposes that the full-scale demonization and propaganda against the Nationalist Socialists is true and collapses it with white American (Jew and gentile) experimentation on African Americans – Tuskegee syphilis atrocity. The eugenics program started with the small-pox blankets. A big mistake is to introject unexamined lies, however familiar- that of the Nazi eugenicist. The Nazi eugenicist is the figment of the ‘survivors’ imagination. If one believes the lie that Hitler was a mindless racist, and not that the Jews controlled and dominated the German economy before 1939 and Hitler was provoked into invading Poland, then one will believe that a systematic eugenics program (against Jews) existed in spite of there being laws against initiated by Hitler. WWW 11 was conjured up , plotted by the Zionists during the WWW1 to bring about a Jewish homeland. The Germans (Christians) were the victims, not the Jews. They were the architects of both world wars on both sides of the Atlantic.

    1. lol. ‘the road from pearl harbor’ was my editorial retitling of this swanson peice. unfortunately i forgot to provide the link to the original, so i dont even know what the original title is. my bad. pardon me, david swanson.

  18. taotesan · · Reply

    I am sorry if this messing up your thread, Nomad.

    I don’t think you can accuse me of being a limited hangout, if i understand that term correctly. I will believe the Holohoax when there is forensic evidence to support it. Dental forensics, for a start. Where are all the bones and teeth, mountains of ash from the cremotorias? Surely, it can’t be too hard to find the remains of six million deceased. Oh, we are supposed to believe the Germans with their super efficiency, burnt and gassed using the most inefficent means possible: delouser ( Zykon B) for typhus coincidentally invented by a Jew.

    This article is full of unsubstantiated holes-“The road fom Pearl Harbour” The one thing Swanson gets right is that the American public were unwilling to go to another war and that Roosevelt had lied to them. This article presupposes that the full-scale demonization and propaganda against the Nationalist Socialists is true and collapses it with white American (Jew and gentile) experimentation on African Americans – Tuskegee syphilis atrocity. The eugenics program started with the small-pox blankets. A big mistake is to introject unexamined lies, however familiar- that of the Nazi eugenicist. The Nazi eugenicist is the figment of the ‘survivors’ imagination. If one believes the lie that Hitler was a mindless racist, and not that the Jews controlled and dominated the German economy before 1939 and Hitler was provoked into invading Poland then one will believe that a systematic eugenics program (against Jews) existed in spite of there being laws initiated against it by Hitler. WWW 11 was conjured up , plotted by the Zionists during the WWW1 to bring about a Jewish homeland. The Germans (Christians) were the victims, not the Jews. The were the architects of both wars on both sides of the Atlantic.

    ‘Confessions’ of Nazi murder en masse were forced by crushing the testicles of witness in the infamous Nuremburg Trials of which the Jews were judge, juror and executioner (and torturer). If I was a man I probably would admit to anything whilst having my testicles crushed.

    If they, and this is only the tip of the ice-berg, (the Jews or j/Jewish people can try to erase their major role in the Transatlantic and Arab slave trade, genocide of First People by erasing any trace of it on the internet, terrorise African and African American historians, tarring and feathering African and African American freedom fighters and civil rights leaders as anti- semitic for their call to economic independence and legitimate criticism of isarael, be collusive about 9/11 – ala Chomsky and Goodman, photograph fellow israelis in paroxyms of pleasure when shelling Gaza, ban Solzhenitsyn’s ‘Gulag Archipelago’ and’ 200 Years Together’, be the main beneficiaries of capitalism through genocide and slavery in different continents, develop atomic bombs and use it on innocent civilians, demonize African presidents as cannibals after they were kicked out after being exposed as super exploiters, own the media to control information, have Mossad train the American police force to ‘lynch’ African Americans, israel can supply weapons of mass destruction to repressive regimes, own almost all the mineral wealth in Africa through the use of bio terrorism installing corrupt puppets, whitewash the Holomodor, finance the Klu Klux Klan, supply Amherst with chickenpox blankets, be the largest property owners in South Africa whilst millions still do not have a scratch of land to live on, mastermind 9/11, collect billions of dollars in insurance for it, wage genocidal wars against innocent civilians in Muslim dominated countries, spend billions of dollars on Islamophobic demonization after the 1967 war, ramp up Holocost industry after 1967 war, lie about being slaves in Egypt, brand Jewish critics as self-hating – Fischer (I love him), sell firewater to first Peoples of America, be the masterminds and main beneficiaries of genocide of the San and Nama in Southern African for blood diamonds, develop biowarfare_-Ebola and Aids for mineral rights in Africa, manipulate and control the revolution against apartheid in South Africa, then please excuse me for not believing this twaddle that the Germans are the worst people in world history.

    1. no sweat. got to run now. will read when i get back.

  19. taotesan · · Reply

    There is no forensic evidence that six million Jews died of systematic industrial scale genocide, only eyewitness accounts, which are far-fetched when their accounts are scutinized. Geysers of blood! Pah. There is evidence, however that way less than a millions unfortunately, perished of typhus. And the haunting, emaciated corpses piled on top on each other were those of typhus victims.

    Not only are Palestinians subjected to Jewish supremacy in their own homeland , the myth of the ‘Holocaust’ is used to exonerate them of any sustained evil against their victims.

    And the shrill cry of anti-semitism is a club to be used to foil any criticism of Jewish supremacy/ zionism. It is a meaningless, over-used epithet that reveals more of the accuser than the critic of zionism/ Jewish supremacy. I could care less if I am accused of it. Rather that, than be a member of a group who derives money and power and privilege through slavery, genocide, apartheid, communism and gargantuan lies of epic proportions.

    Sorry, I am not taken in (anymore) by white innocence, least of all, Jewish white innocence.

    The most innocent is the most guilty and the most guilty is the most innocent is this world of ours turned upside down by greedy (psychopathic) ungrateful invaders.

    etymology :
    *chatel- Hebrew for cattle.
    chattel slavery – ‘sub-human cattle’ branded for life with the Curse of Ham deemed fit for only torturous work to death in perpetuity.
    capitalism – per head (of cattle) – wealth derived through many heads of cattle.

    1. amazing breadth and wealth of knowledge there, taotesan. thanks. they dont provide that kind of perspective over here generally. theyre even trying to pass laws to prevent it. holocost denial. i see you read kevin barretts article.

  20. Having had a family member — my grandmother’s sister (baptised Catholic) — who was murdered in Nazi controlled Berlin for having a disability (probably w/ the initially invented as a pesticide Zyklon B) & having the most anti-Zionist pro-Palestinian advocate/activist friends who are Jewish; please disregard my last comments about possibly popping up on your ‘About’ page etc. in future.

    I have expressed how injurous these attitudes are toward our Palestinian fight for freedom & a one state solution; when we have continuosly rejected anti-semitism & made it clear we DO NOT HATE “Jews” but rather hate the occupation & it’s systemic oppression & genocide. There are Oriental Jews also (Mizrahi/Syrian & Arab). Even Hezballah has said this.

    These misrepresentations of “Jews” & the very real murderous Holocaust during which German Berliner family members of mine (non-Jewish & Jewish) were murdered by the Nazis; are DIGGING OUR GRAVE along w/ Israeli zionists & their supporters. I hope your shovel doesn’t get too tiring for you!

    1. Should have read: ‘…made it clear we DO NOT HATE “JEWS” but rather hate the Israeli occupation…’ (I left out the word ‘Israeli’ & by that I refer to the post 1948 State of Israel & NOT every Jewish person born there).

      By ‘DIGGING OUR GRAVE’ I meant that anti-semites on both the left & the right & unafiliated who think they are supporting us are actually assisting in ‘digging the graves of Palestinians’. (I left out the word ‘Palestinians’).

  21. taotesan · · Reply

    @ Zoe

    Rather than having been victims of Zyklon- B in the ‘murderous gas chambers’, the Jews were probably the main beneficiaries of the life-saving delousing chambers. Do proper research.

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p-73_berg.html

    I, myself, have (mis)spent four decades crying and sympathizing with supposed victims. But all my tears and uninformed sentimentality to anecdotal evidence does not square up with forensic science. Do proper research.

    ‘I have expressed how injurous these attitudes are toward our Palestinian fight for freedom’
    Nobody owns the Palestinian fight to freedom and neither do you and the very worst offenders are Jews liberal or not , who control how any-one should resist israeli oppression .

    As Steve Biko put it: “Not only have they kicked the black man but they have also told him how to react to that kick”. Just replace ‘black” with Palestinian. I do not believe for a split-second that your Jewish friends are these tireless fighters for Palestinian freedom.
    Trotting out refrains of anti- semitism is meaningless. Feel free to challenge what i have written with some backup, not hand me anecdotes.

    ‘These misrepresentations of “Jews”’- what misrepresentations?

    ‘the very real murderous Holocaust’ history of the centuries of chattel slavery engineered by Jews is denied by the main progenitors of the Transatlantic Slave Trade. Apparently denying centuries of oppression of African Americans is a legitimate endeavour by Aipac, Jewish Defamation League, academia, media and all branches of Jewish supremacy but incredulous disbelief at the tallest story ever told is somehow ‘anti-semitic’.

    Zoe, what would describe the Jewish denial of their major role in the Transatlantic Slave Trade?

    1. Obviously you have great difficulty reading as well as empathising w/ people Taotesan; as I wrote that my grandmother’s sister was murdered by the Nazis for having a disability. And not some invented person who you don’t believe exists & who you think I should do “research” about. And not Jewish btw. As for your comment about my “Jewish friends”; I also wrote of my grandmother’s Jewish brother in law. Zyklon B was tested on people w/ disability first.

      I am half German & half Lebanese. So as well as your patronisingly telling me to do my “research” I happen to have firsthand familial knowledge of the issues you are (sort of as you are so terribly far afield) referring to.

      And yes I actually do ‘own’ our Palestinian/Lebanese narrative. Because it is ours. That is the key word there. How arrogant to tell us we don’t know what we are talking about.

      People who say things like you have said are killing our hope for a ‘one state solution’ free of hatred. Thanks for your help w/ that… w/ as I said digging our graves! Pretty beyond arrogant to tell a Palestinian advocate w/ family from town in South Lebanon occupied for decades by Israelis to do “research”!

      Look to your own evil soul & hatred of others instead of only blaming everyone else. Since you are so full of hatred you come off as evil yourself. Evil hatred cannot cure evil hatred.

      I am unsubscribing to Nomad’s blog now; so no use responding to me. Anyway you are not going to convince me that my family was not murdered by the Nazis & that you can speak for Palestinians & Lebanese better than we can speak for ourselves. How laughably arrogant! On the floor laughing!

  22. taotesan · · Reply

    Do not unsubscribe to Nomad . He is not the author of my anti- Jewish supremacist writing. I am.

    You still have not answered my last question. Histrionics and accusations of hatred and arrogance are not substantive rebuttals.

    The research I was referring to was the supposed German extermination of Jews.

    I do and cannot not speak for Palestinians because I can’t . I can speak up against Jewish apartheid oppression against Palestinians because as a South African I have lived most of my life under apartheid myself and see the parallels of South African and israeli apartheid. My heart gets very sore at the immense suffering of the Palestinians. My full sympathies are with the Palestinians people.

    “Look to your own evil soul & hatred of others instead of only blaming everyone else. Since you are so full of hatred you come off as evil yourself. Evil hatred cannot cure evil hatred.” And you deduced this from what? Is that the new ‘anti-semitic deflection?

    I will leave. Carry on . I will continue to read Nomad’s thought-provoking and eye-opening articles and roll my eyes over your hysterics.

    1. taotesan, you are welcome to comment here anytime. as is zoe.

  23. taotesan · · Reply

    ^ Do not

  24. Usually holocaust denile is a white supremist talking point.

    I visted Dachau once and i was surprised to see that the number one ethnic group that had been gassed there were White Germans. Those who had politically opposed Hitler. In fact more Germans were killed by their own government then any other ethnic group.

    In the U.S. any critisim of the Isreali regiem gets you labbeled as ani semite. The Isarali lobby has termendous influence in U.S. politics and Evengelical Christians, who are pro Zionism, make up a vast majority of Americans.

    Isreal acts as a forward American military position. Isreali economic dominance within the continent of Africa is vast but never talked about. Israli occupation of the entire country is illegitimate because it was acquired by theft.

    I don’t belive that there is Jewish global banking cartel conspiring to take over the planet. Their is currently a global banking cartel that controls most of the worlds banking and currency but it is not exclusively Jewish.

    I don’t belive Jews are some kind of super race with magical DNA.

    I do look forward to the day that Isreal is over run and their fascist governmemt destroyed.

  25. hmmmm…

    interesting stats this morning. showing one visitor from two countries. usa and south africa. whoever it is, taotesan perhaps, apparently gets around. at lightning speed.

  26. again, interesting blog stats. one visitor. two countries. ireland and usa.

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